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Jeffrey Carter's avatar

I think it is funny how the Keynesians are in mourning over the potential huge cut in government spending. The multiplier effect of government spending on GDP is 0 or maybe even negative. Hence, they are calling for a recession and with it lower interest rates.

Instead, I think that we might see lower interest rates due to decreases in energy prices, decreases in labor costs due to more people on the market looking for work as government slims down, and lower home prices as homes come on the market.

Conversely, if deregulation happens, combined with lower taxes, we could see a lot of private growth.

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Shifting lines...Hut! hut! Omaha! Right..I guess if Covid comes back in a more virulent form or Bird Flu steps up and we have Pandemic-II and the health dept people shutter the economy and the Fed dallies again and the fiscal spigot...well, you get the picture. The lines on the chart create a correlation, but there is a lot of stuff behind the scenes - stuff that matters. As you mention a severe recession, spiking oil prices, an Arab oil embargo of the US—Nixon closed the gold window in 1971—a bit earlier...yeah a lot of stuff there apart from fed funds Vs inflation. There was a protracted fall in productivity too , probably related to high oil prices and environmental mandates that mandated investment but did not account in GDP for any air or water clean up that resulted.

I have been concerned that this inflation problem BEGAN mid-1960s to 1980s. The story was one of too little too late. It was true with or without recession and regardless of recession severity. Even when the Fed did hike rates in a more timely fashion (1974-75) rates did not linger higher enough; rates were cut too soon and too sharply. This was all kicked off by a mid-196Os 'soft landing' when the Fed hiked rates then stopped! No recession; inflation that had flared fell back but, claissically, did not fall back to its pre-tigheing speed. Nether did inflation get back there after the 1969-70 recession or the 1973-75 recession... Do we see a pattern? It is not just FF>inflation. It is F>Infl for long enough to produce a decline in inflation. This is why the current policy scares me with or without Trump. The Fed did not stick with it and is now operating off forecasts and cutting rates reducing teh premium of FF over inflation. Who could possibly think this is a good idea? Maybe some PhD who would point out to this dumb commenter that M-poilcy works with a lag and so must be preemeptive and must rely on forecasts.. OK I do get it. But even when the forecasts are terrible? Its like this: you are lost in a strange city so naturally you hire a guide. You employ another visitor who is also lost to help you. GREAT! I DON'T THINK SO. That is the caveat. Reacting quickly to more reliable actual data makes more sense to me. Economists like many professionals are trapped in a paradigm of their own making. They have been doing it too long they do not even think about the logic of it any more. Then there is the little matter that eonomiic models do not and have not forecasted inflation well. and John's view of the FTPL. So we are really far more lsot than anyone admits. and we are supposed to have anchored inflation expectations?? How could anyone belevie in that??

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