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Chris Ball's avatar

Not sure if I'm missing something, but I think your "primary surplus/gdp" graph is wrong. You say "Surplus is net lending or borrowing, AD02RC1Q027SBEA, primary surplus subtracts interest payments A091RC1Q027SBEA" But if I take the first series minus the second, I don't get that. I get this: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1o5sF It is never positive.

Finally, I ADDED the two series and divided by real GDP (GDPC1) although most measures or real or potential real look the same... and I get a graph that looks like yours. Here's the link: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/AD02RC1Q027SBEA#0 .

If your graph has them added, then the comments/stories around it are off too.

I suspect my graph with them subtracted isn't right because we did indeed run primary surpluses in the late 1990s... but what data to look at?

Any thoughts?

I'm very interested in finding good data to play with and think about FTPL. So, I'd be interested in any suggestions on good time series for real primary surpluses or appropriate measures of debt, etc. I plan to look at these globally over the summer, but wanted to start with the best data I know of which is USA FRED data so I feel confident that I'm looking at what I want to look at then I can worry about non-US measures.

Thanks.

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Gary Lubben's avatar

Barro's graph is quite impressive. However, he does not include monetary phenomenon.

Most if not all of those countries had both expansive fiscal and monetary policies.

Shouldn't both be included?

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